Topic: Greetings, i'm new to the site

Greetings,

    I recently stumbled across this site and have decided to stick around to learn a thing or two.  I am not familiar with the various terms being used to describe peoples' individual limitations, so please bear with me if I ask dumb questions. 

    I do not have any disabilities but ever since I took up programming I have been fascinated with finding unique ways to control software/games.  While I am interested to see what's been done in other areas (such as software for the blind), my main interest is for users who are limited to only a single toggle input... I think i've seen the term "1 switch" used to describe this.  If I am using the wrong terminology please let me know.

    I would like to know what types of software + games are currently available for users with such extreme limitations.  I am sure there must be some type of standard tools for them that everyone knows about except me.  :D  lol    I have seen several links for OneSwitch.org.uk (which looks promissing from the name) but the link seems to be broken.  Thanks, in advance, for any info you may send my way!

- Aprone

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Hi Aprone.

Yes OneSwitch seems to be down at the moment.

Keep trying, your questions will be answered when it is back on line !

Best regards,

Geoff.

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Thank you GeofffH, I will keep checking back until OneSwitch is back up.

I've been looking around the web for about 3 days and I'm finding Very few applications/tools designed to work with a single switch!  The ones I have found are generally of very poor quality and/or require an assistant (someone who is not limited to 1 switch) to work the menus.  I don't see the point of a single-switch game where you'd have to hope someone wandered by to move you to the next level!  :P

Oh well... like you said, OneSwitch might end up being what I'm looking for.

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I am sorry about double-posting but I have continued to search for 1-switch software and I am appalled at some of the prices I am seeing!  The two software titles that caught my eye were "E Z Keys" (communication software) and "CrossScanner" (1-2 switch mouse emulator).  Do people actually use these... their prices are Ridiculous!  The CrossScanner costs $119 and the EZ Keys falls between $695 and $1395 depending on the individual's need!  It is horrible to think people are being charged these kinds of prices for the tasks these programs do.

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You will find software for disabled people is extortionate but we dont get much choice. Geoffs stuff is at the reasonable end of the spectrum.

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Hi Aprone.

If single switch access to a pc is what you are after, try Click-n-Type, it is freeware!

http://www.lakefolks.org/cnt/

Then there are voice controls using VAC. (see elsewere on these threads) http://www.dwvac.com/


Then there is software to use a webcam to control the mouse pointer, generaly not as good as dedecated hardware like Smartnav or Headmouse but much less expensive.

By the way, OneSwitch.org.uk is back up.

There is actually a lot of stuff out there if you know what to browse for.

Best of luck,

Geoff.

Last edited by GeoffH (2009-02-06 21:01:30)

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Thanks for the extra info, i'm checking those out now.

Is there any ballpark estimate someone can give me about the number of "single-switch" users that frequent this forum?  I am currently coding a single-switch game and I would like to know if my efforts would be better spent making it specifically for people with more than single-switch capacity.  If, for example, 99% of the people here far exceede single-switch capacity it might make more sense to design it for more inputs.  Obviously if someone is not limited to a single-switch format, and they are playing a single-switch game, they are being unnecessarilly limited or slowed down.  Hopefully you guys understand what i'm asking.

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I use a combination of a gamepad which I can press one button, a trackball mouse and voice recognition (DragonDictate). I stick it all together with glovePIE which also uses SAPI (Microsofts speech api).

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Hi Aprone,

You won't find huge numbers of one-switch gamers frequenting this forum - but many do play the games at schools and at home with support from friends/carers/family to get set-up in most cases. Plus - I get a huge numbers of downloads

I recommend you take a look here: http://www.oneswitch.org.uk/2/sd-top10.htm and here http://switchgaming.blogspot.com/search … ign%20Tips - if you haven't already.

Be great to get an idea of what you're coming up with.

Barrie
www.OneSwitch.org.uk

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Barrie,

Yeah I've taken a look at everything on the OneSwitch site (and every other site I could find for that matter, lol) so I think I finally have a pretty fair idea of the software avaiable for 1-switch users.  I am sure there must be free versions of many of the applications, but I have been really shocked by how expensive everything is!  The other thing i've noticed is that most of the games, and even some of the applications, look very crappy and unprofessional.  Half of them look like they wouldn't be out of place stuck to someone's fridge and signed with a crayon.  :D

The project I'm working on right now should act as a complete 1-switch system (since I havn't found any single program out there that does this).  Once loaded, everything is handled with 1-switch using one of 2 methods for X,Y coordinate selection.  Similar to icons on a desktop, the user can change settings, run games (good quality games is the plan), or run any of the tools.  All games, tools, and menus still take place in a 1-switch environment so technically they should never need anyone to come help them with anything.

I am already working on a typer as one of the tools.  It will have the same 2 XY methods, as well as a morse code option, for typing.  All text is stored within the program so it can be saved and loaded easily.  I dont' have it done yet, but I want to have an option to export the completed text to outside programs.  The word-predictor feature obviously.  The user should be able to easily create their own set of folders and sub-folders for storing things... even putting passwords on them if desired (everyone Should be able to keep things private if they want).  A calculator, calendar, music player (for any mp3's on the comp), generic SFX player (allowing the user to save sounds to be quickly accessed and played out loud to communicate with other people), virtual dice, photo album, clock with timer+alarm, ... I think that's all the tools I have planned so far.

    As far as games for the system go, I am already building a fairly nice version of a "Gem dropper"/"Bejeweled" game.  Graphically it is below Bejeweled, but it is flashy and animated to look nice.  I have things like Battleship, Cards, Tetris, and Simon on the drawing board.  The system will allow the user to link icons to external games as well.  Lets say, for example, they have Strange Attractors 2 on their computer.  They can set it up to display as an icon within the system just like the built-in games.  Running it will execute Strange Attractors and switch back to my system after the game exits.  I am also thinking of putting in some type of safety feature that can be set by the user.  If set, the system will automatically move itself to the foreground after X minutes.  This would be good incase the user has found himself/herself stuck at a screen they cannot control.  Instead of waiting for someone to wander by and notice, they will know that every X minutes the system will kind of "check in" to give them control again.  A few clicks will shink it back down if they so desire, otherwise they are no longer trapped and can go about their business.

    I would absolutely Love to build in some multiplayer games but I know I wouldn't be able to commit my own personal server to the cause.  :(  It would be pretty cool though if this system had a built-in online multiplayer community.  A virtual role-playing world would be pretty cool since everyone would be basically at the same level.  No one would feel disadvantaged compared to everyone else.

It's a big project planned, but I think it will be really cool if I can get it done.  (Oh I also didn't mention that I want this to be free software)

Last edited by Aprone (2009-02-08 06:13:22)

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Sounds like a very interesting project. I recommend you google up the following too:

"ez keys" - "acc keys" - "clicker 5"

Good luck with it!

Barrie
www.OneSwitch.org.uk

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Aprone,

Check out our new Top 20 Web Sites for Gamers who are Motion-Impaired.

It has some good places you might check out, in addition to Barrie's site and this one.

John Bannick
www.7128.com

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Thanks for the info, i'll check it out.

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I am already working on a typer as one of the tools.  It will have the same 2 XY methods, as well as a morse code option, for typing.  All text is stored within the program so it can be saved and loaded easily.  I dont' have it done yet, but I want to have an option to export the completed text to outside programs.  The word-predictor feature obviously.  The user should be able to easily create their own set of folders and sub-folders for storing things... even putting passwords on them if desired (everyone Should be able to keep things private if they want).  A calculator, calendar, music player (for any mp3's on the comp), generic SFX player (allowing the user to save sounds to be quickly accessed and played out loud to communicate with other people), virtual dice, photo album, clock with timer+alarm, ... I think that's all the tools I have planned so far.

    As far as games for the system go, I am already building a fairly nice version of a "Gem dropper"/"Bejeweled" game.  Graphically it is below Bejeweled, but it is flashy and animated to look nice.  I have things like Battleship, Cards, Tetris, and Simon on the drawing board.  The system will allow the user to link icons to external games as well.  Lets say, for example, they have Strange Attractors 2 on their computer.  They can set it up to display as an icon within the system just like the built-in games.  Running it will execute Strange Attractors and switch back to my system after the game exits.  I am also thinking of putting in some type of safety feature that can be set by the user.  If set, the system will automatically move itself to the foreground after X minutes.  This would be good incase the user has found himself/herself stuck at a screen they cannot control.  Instead of waiting for someone to wander by and notice, they will know that every X minutes the system will kind of "check in" to give them control again.  A few clicks will shink it back down if they so desire, otherwise they are no longer trapped and can go about their business.

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Hi Aprone.

What you are aiming at doing is great, but I should check out the GRID2 from Sensory Software. This is also fully 1 switch compatible as they may have some copyright issues.
http://www.sensorysoftware.com/thegrid2.html
I am not saying they have but I just thought I would give you a "heads up"

Best regards,

Geoff.
LEPMIS

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It looks that this little conversation between of two,was give an information to the other member.
I read and studying this thread then I took for,because  I am also thinking of putting in some type of safety feature that can be set by the user.

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