Hi Jeff.

That sounds an interesting project, does anyone own any patent rights to the idea, I would hate to get stung by that, although the work has clearly been published.

Something like that wouldn't be cheap.

I would be interested in helping you to create something like that.

Here is my online CV (the web site does need some serious updating though).

http://hometown.aol.co.uk/longeatonpmis/MyCV1.htm.

Look forward to hearing from you.

Geoff.

Integra Mouse:
http://www.infogrip.com/product_view.as … t=Pointing

Wondering if this might be the solution?

Try these links for more possibilities...

http://www.ciao.co.uk/click.php?oid=239 … ead%3Dciao

Palm Grip: http://www.infogrip.com/product_view.as … t=Pointing

Barrie
www.OneSwitch.org.uk

Last edited by OneSwitch.org.uk (2006-10-16 21:12:27)

Thanks Jeff for letting us know.  You remind me that there are so many needs out there accessible gameplay to be so broad and very intuitive which basically means a very broad range of players with many disabilities to play the game very fast taking playing it without having to master techniques making it difficult.

I don't know anyone who could make something like this but I know your inspiration for me myself, 24 years old spinal cord injury living in Ireland after 10 years now you help me to learn more about the needs for papers with physical disabilities.  Currently in my fourth year the Art Institute online study game design and I am an artist thanks for the little bit of encouragement please feel free to let us know more sure someone can help you in here.  I love the art side of creating games in a very technical the plot once I get the company started hopefully the next five years I will have an average of the possible were all these features need to be together in one game vitally.  As much as possible.  That's the struggle many little games here and there but nothing really addressing as much as possible in one game.  The struggle because everyone has to fight again specifically for them so it's hard for someone else to enjoy our elected familiar with that game to play with your peers of the people in a little very small group.  A large group with a huge need at a few people discovering those games.

If you'd like to help me with my documentary about my life and are going with game designed to help people please send me an e-mail with a few of your top concerns that love to put your confirmation and it I hope to finish by next game design conference San Francisco March.

Robert
www.RobertFlorio.com .  all about art and video game accessibility.
arthit73@cablespeed.com

I contacted the original maker of this device, but he didn't give me much more than a one liner as an answer, so not very much help coming from that direction.
the technology seems actually fairly straight forward, it's just not my area of expertise whatsoever.  I'm much more of a hardware guy than a software guy (at least I was before I got this disability) .

Hi elric.

Yes the Integramouse may well be a solution to your problem and is readily available I imagine. 

It does cost about £1,100 plus possibly tax and delivery. Again, not a cheep option.

I don't know much about your condition, is holding your head in one position to get to the integramouse likely to cause you problems with your tendinitice. Will it be in the way of what you are trying to look at?

I have been having a browse through the catalogues and I think I have found a way to make the joystick part for ridiculously little money in terms of the cost of the materials.

The time to develope it is something else.  sadly I can't do this for nothing, I need to share with you the costs for my time in terms of development and manufacture.

I would be grateful if both you and the moderators would share their opinions on me quoting costs etc on this forum. elric you should have my e-mail address from my web site.

A device like this with electrical connections going inside the moist environment of the mouth is not something to take on lightly. It will be classed as a Medical Device and come under the requirements of the european Medical Devices Directive - 93/42/EEC. It will also be covered by BSEN 60601-1 safety of medical Electrical Equipment, and there are stringent requirements for leakage currents, withstand voltages and the bio-compatibility of the materials used for such devices.  Also, it could be most unfortunate if the joystick came off the dental plate and got lodged in your throat!

All these things need thinking about. But then, thats been my job for the last 15 years.  I am quite confident that this is relatively easy to do. Whether you will be able to use it in the long term is of course something we shall only find out when we try.

There is also another way to do it. Rather than a joystick from the roof of your mouth, you could put some switches on the insides of your teeth, (on the dental plate), and do it that way. There are some very small switches available.

Let if know if and how you would like to proceed. By the way, what do you want to connect this to, games machine or PC etc.

Best regards,

Geoff.

Tongue Controlled Game Boy SP:
http://www.simmunity.com/gameboy.html

Got this info from D-Gamer.com
http://d-gamer.com

Sadly - looks like this item is no longer being made. Very interesting project though.

Hi everyone :)  I am Shannon Bailey, the creator of the Tongue Controlled Gameboy and Jeffs custom tongue controller, seen in the image referenced here being modeled by my son:

http://www.simmunity.com/images/SimmunityTonguePad.jpg

I have some good news for everyone, after moving six months ago I'm finally settled in to a new home and great startup job where I manage the design and engineering team for a new product which is both hardware/software.  Now that the project at work is well underway, I finally have some cycles to work on special projects again and want to pursue Jeffs tongue joystick project and/or a similar tongue control project TBD.  I have a good garage machine shop setup now and my electronics bench is setup and going again.  I have updated my electronics design and embedded controller tools so I am current again for this project and for my wacky Burning Man PsyBalls full motion simulator art cars I AM going to finish for the 2007 burn...  Anyway, now that I am ready to work on special needs projects, I need to hear from YOU whatever your needs :)

BTW, the Tongue Controlled GameBoy's I created were custom remanufactured and included an extra PIC microcontroller inside the case which attached to a special the receiver and tongue controller made by a company I was consulting for.  I designed the circuit and programmed the receiver decoder DSP and control program for the PIC enhancement processor and my son did the microscopic soldering needed to fabricate several of these.  They were created to make introducing the companies tongue controller to young quadriplegic youth easier and more enjoyable.  We also designed the game logic and art and wrote a simple 2D, 9 zone alien shooter game for the GBA as a simple first experience trainer/game using the Charmed Labs GBA cartridge and their excellent eCos environment and GNU C compiler tool chain for the ARM in the GBA console.  The game provided a fun trainer for the tongue controller which aligned the nine spots on the screen where the alien could land and be shot with the 9 buttons of the tongue controller.  Several other GBA games like pac man and others were quite playable using the tongue controller.  The main reason I discontinued making these special Tongue Controlled GameBoy consoles is that I did not own the receiver and tongue controller technology that was part of the complete solution, and was never in a position to sell complete Tongue Controlled GameBoy systems.  The company that owns the tongue controller and receiver technology was not interested in selling these to people for gaming.  The controller is for use with their wheel chair controller system.  The mouth worn controllers are expensive to maintain and require replacement batteries, cleaning and refurbishing every three to six months which would be prohibitively expensive for use only for gaming.  They claim to have a few hundred people using their system for the last ten years.  The reality is their controller is slow to respond and not really that suitable for general gaming activities.  Use of the IBM style joystick along with buttons would probably make a far superior tongue gaming controller.

Cheers all and feel free to write me at shannon (at) simmunity (dot) com

You edited the tag correctly of the first image! The second one was without accessible alt tag.
About the size, the image is the same size as the original, but a part gets cut off when your screen size is smaller.

You can link directly to the image to prevent that?

Hi Kyrod17

We use the Headmouse Extreme a lot at work, but didn't know there was an Onfra red switch interface for it. That is very usefull. Thanks.

Geoff.